Comments on: Apparently society really is moving backwards…

By: Caitlin

Caitlin — Mon, 05 May 2008 19:55:40 +0000

I can respect women for their choices and still believe that the very concept of a Hooters ‘restaurant’ is wrong. I can respect their choice, but I don’t believe that the objectification of women should be a choice that women have to make - it shouldn’t be there in the first place. A place like Hooters normalises an ideal of women that has a negative impact not only on those who work there, but also on women generally. The very fact that most Hooters restaurants have stag night deals which combine a meal at Hooters with a discount at the local strip club shows that Hooters is not about an honest living, it’s about a company that employs women for male enjoyment. I do not disrespect the women who work there - I appreciate that women need to work just as men do, and that for some women this is seemingly the best option available. But I don’t believe that it should be an option, because the ideal that it subscribes to is one which degrades women.

By: Nikki Mitchell

Nikki Mitchell — Mon, 05 May 2008 18:38:16 +0000

The restaraunt business is hard- whether it is at Hooters or elsewhere. To be in a male dominated enviroment is going to be a trying experience, no matter where you are. I think its important that we support women who are making an honest living- even if it is at Hooters. Like it has already been said, if you don’t like it, don’t go. Disrespecting people only furthers the problem. And if a woman wants to utilize her sexuality, what exactly is wrong with that? It does not make her unintelligent or less than. It’s kind of silly that people who are such strong supporters of feminist ideals are actually attacking women for their choices. The feminist movement is all about choice. How about respect that?

By: Jacob Ward

Jacob Ward — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:49:45 +0000

Only the info about minimum wage was from wikipedia, and it’s usually right on such things. A quick Google search corroborates it.
Anyway, I think this argument has reached its logical conclusion, and I have a migraine still, so I certainly shan’t write any more.
…ow.
See you tomorrow….do you want me to bring anything in particular or just the usual selection of rubbish? Lol.

By: Caitlin

Caitlin — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:56:08 +0000

Ah. It thought you were spam. My bad - I think I’ve sorted it now

By: Caitlin

Caitlin — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 09:49:18 +0000

Ok, I’m sorry that I have a problem with your info. I just think that it is unlikely that Hooters could get away with 1% of tips (is that even legal?) and so I question them. And if that piece of info came from Wiki, isn’t it fair to have a problem with the info?

As for your sources, none say that the ‘girls’ aren’t tipped substantially. Indeed, while they acknowledge that they are paid the minimum wage, they also make a point of how important tips are:

“Considering some days are slower than others, some people (especially kids/young teenagers) don’t understand how to tip, or if you luck out and get a good section with customers who really know how to tip. Some nights you can expect to make as low as $30 and some as high as $400.”

I got rid of one of the links as it didn’t work, but all of the others do. I just think that at least some women who work there do it for the money, in order to get by, rather than out of a general desire to be objectified. But that doesn’t mean I think that all of the women who work there want to be elsewhere - far from it, sadly.

By: Jacob Ward

Jacob Ward — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:29:10 +0000

I’ll email it to you and perhaps you could post it (for the millions of fans who follow our disputes :P) How strange.

By: Caitlin

Caitlin — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:21:08 +0000

Your posts? I have no idea…I haven’t set it to regulate them, maybe you just haven’t written any
And I am fully aware that it is now past midnight and I said I was going to bed. I’m a terrible person.

By: Jacob Ward

Jacob Ward — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:13:09 +0000

Why aren’t my posts coming up?
Lol.

By: Jacob Ward

Jacob Ward — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:58:46 +0000

Gratuity is the term for tips prevalent in America.
What on earth is your problem with my information? It’s a Hooters advert. If you want more then here
and here

and here

The 1% came from here though it would appear that it usually depends on the size of your breasts.
Of course they say it’s great money, most employers with uncertain pay due to tips would.
At this low rate, who would work there save those who really want to work there or have been fired from all other local restaurants?
On a more personal note, I should really take my bag to my mum’s in the evening as I currently have what will shortly be a very painful migraine and no pills to deal with it with. Hey ho.
I’d say sweet dreams, but unless there’s something you haven’t been telling me, then I guess you won’t enjoy your Hooter girl dreams
Night

By: Caitlin

Caitlin — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:28:21 +0000

“flexible hours, great money and tuition reimbursement”
Would they be able to claim ‘great money’ if it weren’t an unusual amount? Also where did you find out their definition of gratuity? And where does it say they get 1% of the tips??
I concede, if they are paid poorly then the argument that they need to do it to survive becomes somewhat difficult to maintain. However I have issues with the sources of your ‘information’ and believe that, even if they only were paid the minimum wage, the tips on top of it would be substantial. And whether ‘gratuity’ is tipping or something extra that Hooters does is unclear.
Anyway I’m off to bed for some Hooters-fuelled nightmares, ciao.